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the campaign later distanced himself from the mark. later that night, ken cucinelli went to the fund raiser with jeb bush, hosted by fred malek from the nixon administration, who nixon assigned to count all the jews in the labor statistics to beside lined from the work because they were jews, the ken cucinelli fund raiser that started with the money-grubbing jews joke where he met up with mr. moderate jeb bush. tah-dah, welcome to the republican party. it is 2013. i swear i sxhechecked my watch before the show. now time for the last word with lawrence o'donnell. >> the federal government is updating contingency plans for a shutdown because today house speaker john boehner caved in to ted cruise and the tea party. >> republicans announce they're ready to shut down the government. >> we're going to continue to do everything we can. >> in the week we'll unveil a
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plan. >> to repeal the failed health care plan. >> they'll hold obama care hostage. >> to funding the government. >> repeal obama care. >> i'm tired of it. >> president obama is again calling on congress to do something. >> the tension is certainly building. >> there should be no conversation about shutting the government down. >> what's going on here? >> there are mixed signals ham penning here. >> let's start with some tough love. >> john boehner is a speaker in name only. >> boehner has given up. >> he has a kaup cuss caucus he lead. >> finally given up. >> real world circumstances. >> it's irresponsible. awe this has become the theater of the absurd. >> the walking on shards of glass. >> i am so happy. >> they're going to get bloody on this one. >> obama care is the law. >> it is the law. >> i think we have a shot at this. >> what's going on here? >> are we headed for a government shutdown? >> we'll continue to do
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everything we can. >> we'll unveil a plan to repeal president's failed health care law. >> this is the step they'll take. >> the gop obsession to repeal obama care. >> the rest of the country, awaits the finale of this preposterouser exsize. ---er exsize. >> house speaker john boehner gave into tea party demand and announced house republicans will vote on a continuing resolution to fund the government past the september 30th deadline and defund obama care. >> we're going to continue to do everything we can to repeal the president's failed health care law. this week the house will pass the c.r. that -- that, that locks the sequester of savings in and defund obama care. the fight over here has been won. the house has the voted 40 times to defund, change, obama care. to repeal it. that it is time for the senate to have this fight. [ indiscernible question ]
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>> i will not predict what the senate will dual or not do. >> of course that is not much for ted cruise. who knows that the senate will not pass a bill that defunds oi obama care. the announcement that the house will volt to defund obama care is terrific news. harry read will no doubt try how to slip it from the language. right now he likely has the the votes to do so. there is ted cruise. predicting harry reid will pass his version of the continuing resolution without the part that defunds obama care. harry reid can only do that if ted cruise surrenders. and refuses to filibustefilibus. house republicans understand that. and they don't like ted cruise saying that after harry reid successfully beats ted cruise in the senate that house
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republicans must stand firm. and hold their ground. and continue to listen to the am scan people. republican congressman sean duffy, tweeted, house agrees to send cr to senate that defund obamacare. senator ted cruise and senator mike lee refuse to fight. wave white flag and surrender. congressman tim griffin of arkansas, so far senate rs are good at getting facebook likes and town halls, not much else. do something. >> and republican congressman john fleming of louisiana said this. >> ted cruise and mike lee have been asking for the fight, the conservative base have been asking for the fight. we'll give them the fight. >> in the meeting of republican house members, the hill reports that john boehner said this about his critics. people say a lot of things about me, boehner told gop lawmakers in a closed door meeting according to two who attend. people outside this room and
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inside this room. i just let that -- [ bleep ] roll off my back. president obama met with business leaders today who are worried that house republicans could hold the debt ceiling hostage to defund obama care. >> just flip the script, imagine the situation in which a democratic speaker said to a republican president -- i'm not going to increase the debt ceiling unless you increase corporate taxes by 20%. if you don't do it we'll default on the debt and cause a worldwide financial crisis. even though that democratic speaker didn't hatch the votes to force through. that particular piece of legislation. they would simply say, we will blow the whole thing up unless you do what i want. that can't be ape recipe fs a r governing. >> joining me now, correspondent for the huffington post,
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director for center for economic and approximately see research, and msnbc correspondent. the house republicans have grown impatient with ted cruise's posturing. boehner saying in his statement, time for the senate to act. then we saw all the tweets. >> really interesting. on the one hand. watching at home. how serious can a civil war be when waged on twitter and face book and sucking up too much to conservatives on facebook. what we are seeing its the famous big fight that they want. they've all want to fight. but nobody wants to beep the closing pitcher right. nobody in the ninth inning. as you pointed out. they know how this ends. everyone knows how this ends. even itch you've tip lated you could get a bill out of both houses this president would obviously veto a bill that tried to take back his domestic achief:given they know that. earlier cracks than people expected. they're nervous about being the
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one pitching when they lose. >> sam stein, we saw the president -- speaking today about the debt ceiling issue. first stage is funding for the government, debt ceiling after that. where its the white house in terms of strategizing, their moves at this point. is this something that they just have to watch. watch while the crazies work it out. >> yes with respect to the legislation, the white house would sign on a continuing resolution, short term length that kept funding the at $89 # 8 billion. locked in sequester levels. they're not going to throw a hissy fit over it. they've recognize the debt ceiling fight its more important. with respect off to the health care law. some how, miraculously, pedestrian cruise were to fill bulser for pay dozen days, convince him to pass something that defunded obama care. the other thing, really important.
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if you shut down the government. health care is the law of the land. continues to be funded. this is what is causing senate republicans to say this is a stupid strategy. the law will be enacted any way. we are waiting for all this kabuke theater to play out. including the white house. and then make their move with respect to the debt ceiling. >> let's listen to him pretending to be happy about this situation. today's announcement is a big deal. few weeks ago, every gray beard in washington said there is no chance of this going forward. today is a victory for house conservatives. that stuck their neck out. that endured a lot of criticism. and to day is a victory for speaker boehner. i agree with mike, i commend house leadership for listening to the american people. they did their job. stood up. a bold decision. i look forward to working with mike to fight in the senate to support this decision for us to succeed and defunding obama
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care. >> all right. dean baker, how do you see this playing out see qufrom the reso through the debt ceiling? >> to my mind. there is little doubt. we will see a continuing resolution pass. my guess its you don't get a shut down of the government. i will be shocked if you seep us come against the debt ceiling. these are losing propositions. it its bad politics, horrible policy. and you know end of the day. this is all about keeping people from getting health care which is not going to be terrible popular either. you know, a lot of theater. a lot of high tension. but i will really be shocked if we see a government shut down and very much shocked if we get to this debt ceiling. >> talk about the poll seal for, for a moment. we spent a lot of time on the politics here. i do want you to also concentrate on policies involved. both in the republican -- proposals on -- on, when they say a continuing resolution. they want to fund at a lower level than we are funding now. even, leaving the obama care
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piece aside. >> yeah, it is important to understand. the economy has been growing very slowly. a big part of that story has been cutbacks at the government level. that's exactly the opposite of what we need right now. we get the story that they like the private sector. that's wonderful. i like the private sector too. but no one in the private sector invests because politicians like them. they invest, hire people. see the demand. they're not seeing it. and a big part of the story right now is the cutbacks of federal, state, local level. they're putting in further cult backs, and would have the effect of cutting things like national institutes of health. cancer research. other things. direct provision of services. also slowing the economy. throwing people out of work. so that's not a good story. then on top of that. their end goal its to prevent people from getting health care. lot of confusion about obama care. i think everyone knows when they seep it people will like it. that has the the republicans terrified. >> dean is right on this account. the health care law.
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and defund effort is a trojan horse in some respects. whuflt it is allowi what it is allowing. put it over here. we are getting continuing resolutions which will make sequester levels. we will end up with $988 billion bill reduced to $967 billion. basically everyone across the board says that's unacceptable. you can't govern at this discretionary spending including house republicans. that's what we are going to get while our attention is focused on this kabuke theater. >> let's listen to ted cruise's nonanswer to sean hannity's question how he was going to convince harry reid to defund obama care in the senate. >> the answer is we have got to win. we have got to respond to the am scan people. a series of steps. the first step. of what mike and i have devoted every waking moment for the past several months to doing. is motivating and energizing the
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am scan people. we have seen, just in a matter of weeks. over 1.3 americans go to don't fund it.com. >> heap has one third of one% of the american population going to don't fund it.com. that's a snart. >> everyone in politics tefrn knows the don't fund it is important. just not as the important as the the re-election of the president. who ran on obama care. ran on his record. the problem they have. not only harry reid is not moving as the a political matter. we have a way to check in with the american people. the election of the incumbent president. to put a face on some points dean was making. we have talked about coming together as a country with horrific stuff we saw happen this week. we talked about mental health and mental health rideasons. jim come, the new fbi director,
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republican prosecutor said the first thing he looked at when taking over the fbi was how grave the sequester cuts were. he was going to have how to shut down the fbi for 10, 15 days a year. headquarters, field offices. they have a plan in mraps if there is a terror attack on one of the days god forbid they will call the fbi back in. this is madness. a lot of lip service. we have to fundamental issues. we have to fund our security. look at fbi agents who hit the streets immediately at the navy yard. and actually pay tribute to them so they get paid for their jobs. not just pay lip service. >> and you have written extensively and in detail about some of the thing that are happening under the sequester. that are hurtful. people aren't aware of. seems to me nothing short of a government shut down would get widespread attention to just how bad that situation is.
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>> a government shutdown will be so immediate and dramatic in some respects that people would recognize -- the harm that comes when you just basically stop the government spigot. the debt ceiling will be ten times worse. but i think you are right. you hit an important point. we largely pushed to the side discussion of -- the consequences of the spending cuts. the, the good news for people who want to reverse them is that they will compound on each other. they will get worse. for instance we talked to federal public defender's office. looking at approximately 90 days of furloughs in the forthcoming year because of sequestration. 90 days. four months of work that you've won't be paid. these things are getting worse which will amplify political pressure. all down the road. not being discussed in the context of budget discussions. >> all right, thank you all for joining me tonight. >> thank you, laur ewrenclawren. >> thank you. >> coming up what would shutting down the government mean for republicans in the next congressional campaign. in the rewrite, politically
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some republicans are worried a government shut down orifice cal crisis involving the debt ceiling could damage the republican party's chances of keeping control of the house of representatives. house speaker john boehner wants to stop all that crazy talk about shutting down the government. >> there should be no conversation about shutting the government down. that's not the goal here. our goal here is to cut spending and -- do protect the american people from obamacare. simple as that. no interest on our part in shutting the government down. >> congressman tom coal, chairman of the republican congressional campaign committee said this --
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and as reported here last night. yesterday's wall street journal editorial said shutting down the government is the one event that could reinstall nancy pelosi as speaker. mr. obama could spend his final two years going out in a blaze of liberal glory. joining me now is cope host of msnbc's the cycle crystal ball and nia malika henderson. crystal, i would like to respect the speaker's wishes. he said there should be no conversation about shutting down the government. we have a few minutes. >> right. >> let's talk about shutting down the government. >> we have to talk about something. >> there is boehner trying to shut it down. i want to show you something that mike lee just said on fox news. senator mike lee. he is echoing, trying to echo this thing about no talk about shutting down the government. it doesn't quite work the same way. let's listen to what mike lee said. >> i want to applaud house speaker, john boehner who did
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the courageous thing and stood with the am scerican people. we need stew stand with him and the people. >> what i propose from the very outset. we agree we would fund government and defund obama care. i have never wanted a shutdown. never called for a shutdown. i want to aindividualvoid a shu. -- shut down. we are willing to fund programs that we don't like. as a compromise gesture to aindividuavoid funding obama care. >> he never wanted a shut down. he wants to avoid a shut down. but there he is talking about a shut down. >> that's right. and, you know, newt gingrich was asked by "the washington post" earlier today one of the things he advised to republicans of course after his, famously shutting down the government in, and it costing them at the voting booth. he said this is exactly what they should dupe. they should act like they don't want to shuttle down the government. they should say that.
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as many times as they can. and that certainly, what you hear from boehner and lee and a lot of folks. not abut shout shutting down th government. all these things they cast as reasonable. defunding, obama care, sam said earlier isn't going to happen. actually has the nothing to do with the continuing resolution. but i think, you see, reasonable republicans on the senate side, and even in the pages of "the wall street journal" as you quoted there saying this is ape sure fire turkey for the republicans. shutting down the government. >> crystal, they -- they continue to -- to play with the notion of fooling around with the debt ceiling. if the -- itch the continuing resolution doesn't work. peter king today -- reacted to the situation. i want to -- listen to what he said. >> do you think it is a good idea? [ indiscernible ]
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>> we can't be kamikazes, the way of quoting the lead editorial, referred to them as kamikazes. >> here its what devastating for them. the fact that you have the government shutdown possibility. not only do you have possibility of an actual government shutdown, but in terms of 2014. you also have this very nasty infighting within the republican party which creates apathy and anger within their base. making them less likely to shoef up. and then even if you get past that, then you have this -- this debt ceiling battle as well. which they have gone to the mat over before. the american people are not going to believe this is somehow the president's fault. or somehow the democrats fault. they didn't want to shut down the government. they didn't want to default on the debt. when they're the party that time and time again has forced us into this position and has essentially blackmailed the president to tripe to g-- try tt everything they want. >> this no conversation about shutting down the government is the funniest republican talking
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point i hatch evve ever seen. right here one of their talking points. talking about a thing they shouldn't beep talki ingbe talk. here is marco rubio. taken from a talking points list. he said like boehner there should be no conversation abut shutting down the government. which he then goes on to converse about. that's not the goal here. our goal here is to cut spending and protect the american people from obama care. simple as the that. there is no interest in our part in shutting the government down. so, nia his statement begins and end with we don't want to shut down the government. what they don't say is -- okay. what do you do when your proposal to defund obama care is defeated? >> that's right. i mean everything they're doing -- right now, the talk in washington, is that this will in fact lead to a government shut down. we're coming up. we have two weeks until september 30th. and the talk out of the house,
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obviously, is tying that cr to obama care. i think in a lot of ways this obviously is symbolic. no substance. no real chance of passing. i do think ultimately, it would -- even if they shut down the government. i think it would in some ways, gin up the republican base. and we'll just have to see what happens here. >> crystal ball, and nia malika henderson. thank you all, both of you for joining me tonight. coming of in "the rewrite" the person who said the politically bravest thing that anyone said in washington today. it is someone who i, to put it mildly, usually disagree with. he is a republican, a tea party republican. and i heard him say this i was shocked. i was shocked in a good way. at what he said today. you will be too. he said things that no other republican would dare to say. you are going to have to see this to believe it. it is coming of in the "rewrite."
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republicans, 40 vote to repeal obama care and replace it with absolutely nothing. >> well, not exactly nothing.
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in the spotlight tonight, republiccare. a group of republicans has come forward with their obamacare alternative. it was unveiled by the republican study committee in the house of representatives, the new proposal would of course fully defund affordable care act and replace it with health expansion accounts, medical liability reform and e limb nation -- e limb nati elimination of restrictions. they would push for a vote on the house floor. but acknowledge the bill stand no chance of passage with obama in the woiswois -- in the white house. jonathan, when i read that i think, well i am not sure that plan would stand any chance of passage in the republican house of representatives. >> i don't know that it would either. i think it is really important to remember you. hear people talking about, this
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is the republican alternative plan. no, this is a republican alternative plan. a proposal, some of them have cooked up. we have no idea if it has support in the house. it probably wouldn't get support in the house. i think that really tells us something. for three years now. they have been voting to defund, to repeal, to get rid of obama care, a pre grogram that will l off to health insurance. consumer protections for people who have insurance. as far as we know, i am concern, official republican position is to take that away and replace it with nothing. until the actual house republicans volt for somethi s . they didn't have an alternative. >> the three proposals in there, medical savings accounts, that's not something that -- that anyone who can't currently afford health care does not get enabled to afford health insurance through medical savings account. >> right. and you know -- and it is important, they have medical
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savings kaccount. they have a big deal they have tax credits. we have tax credits we well offer people. doesn't that sound great. what they don't tell you. it is like most republican tax breaks. this is basically a tax break that overwhelmingly favors the wealthy. it is not going to, provide a lot of help for the people who are really struggling today. to get health insurance. the poor. the working class. the middle class. this is a plan that is tilted much more toward the rich. >> and, the other part of it, the -- the allow, this would be a universe in which they have repealed everything any one has ever heard in obama care. that's all gone. and now they say -- their basic version of health care reform is to allow health insurance approximately sees to be sold across state lines. what would that new market look like? >> so the analogy here is to the credit card industry. credit card industry. once upon a time. credit cards were sold all over the country. there were a few states that said we will get rid of
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regulations on credit card. all the companies that sell ed credit card went to the states. today insurance regulation is predominantly done by the states. and some states hatve good regulations. some states don't. in a world that republicans imagine under this plan you would see insurers go to the states that have the least regulations now. you hear regulations. what does that mean. regulations are things like making sure that, you know insurance plans cover maternity. making sure they have diabetes coverage. making sure they cover rehabilitation. prescription drugs. the kind of protections most of us think insurance ought to have. and basically, this is a back door way to get rid of the regulati regulations and to really, reduce health insurance, to something that is very skimpy and that people, any reasonable medical need would find really doesn't take care of their bills. >> and it would enable come pans to offer what look like fairly cheap relatively cheap health insurance programs.
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because they wouldn't beep offering any real benefits. they could have astronomically high deductibles. that may not be instantly obvious to some one desperately trying to find some kind of health insurance they can afford. >> that's right. one of the great things. it provides standardization. you might go shopping for a plan like you said. wow, a great deal. look how cheap it is. then you get sequester and yick discover it has huge deductibles. whole categories of medical care that aren't covered. even though protections exist, not to mention ones obama care will add. >> i want to stress as, kind of complete this discussion of the elements of it. which include this -- this theoretical medical malpractice
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reform some how. isn't much specified. but that doesn't -- help provide health insurance to anybody, reforming, civil court litigation. but, but, this, what we started with is the point that this skrooge-like package of -- of coal, which, which all most nothing in it. is still something that many house republicans would find too much to vote for. they don't want to intrude in this territory even to that extent. >> yeah, it is really pretty remarkable. a pretty minimalist plan. it would help some people. i think there is a case doing some smart malpractice reform makes sense. i think that's something, democrats, republicans were serious about. this is, this is, there are republicans who can't tolerate doing this much. it is really -- quite remarkable. >> john than, thank you for thank you for joining using me tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> coming uppen tonight's episode of the bravest thing
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>> in the rewrite tonight, paulism.
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first, ron paul and now rand paul have pushed ideas that no one else in the republican party supported. here is ron paul in 2008 at a republican presidential primary debate talking about the iraq war. >> in 1952, we republicans were elected to stop the war in korea. 1968, we were elected to stop the war in vietnam. and tragically we didn't stop it very fast. 30,000 more men died. when i talk about the long term stays, i think, how many men are you willing to let die for this? for something that has nothing to do with our national security. there were no al qaeda there. had nothing to do with 9/11. and there was no threat to our national security. they never committed aggression. it's unconstitutional. and undeclared war. >> there he is at the reagan library, saying that to republicans. that is part of why ron paul lost in that campaign. he was saying things that republicans did not want to hear.
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he also said plenty of things republicans did want to hear. but no republican candidacy could possibly survive the things that ron paul said that the republican party was not ready to hear. and now, five years later, paulism is running rampant in the republican party. at least on the matter of military interventions. rand paul isn't the only republican owe posed to a strike in syria. many republicans in the house and senate found their inner peace nick when president obama pro posed striking syria. did it for a variety of reasons including cynical political posturing. but one of the reasons was paulism. the anti-war component of paulism. we know already that like his father before him, rand paul will never be president. like his father before him, rand paul will never be on a republican presidential ticket not in the vice presidential slot.
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rand paul look his father before him, just says too many things that republicans disagree with. especially -- conservative republican primary voters. rand paul does everything he possibly can to please those people. he slams obama care as hard as every other republican, every chance he gets. every once in a while, rand paul's libertarianism, finds him in agreement with liberalism. as happened today in a senate judiciary committee hearing. what you are about to hear rand paul say is absolutely extraordinary. what he said is all true. his reasoning is simple common sense. but virtually every word you are about to hear can and will be held against him in the court of republican presidential politics. what you are about to hear is the politically bravest thing said in washington today.
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>> if i told you that one out of three african-american males its forbidden by law from voting you might think i was talking about jim crow 50 years ago. yet today a third of african-american males are still prevented from voting because of the war on drugs. the war on drugs has disproportionately affected young black males. the aclu reports that blacks are 4 to 5 times more likely to be convicted for drug possession. although surveys in k s indicats and whites use drugs at the same similar rate. the majority of illegal drug users and dealers nationwide are white. 3/4 of the people in prison for drug offenses are african-american or latino. why are arrest rates lopsided? because it is frankly easier to go into the urban areas and make arrests than to go into suburban areas. arrest statistics matter when applying for federal grants. doesn't take much imagination to understand easier to round up,
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arrest, poor kids than rich kids. the injustice of mandatory men mum se minimum sentences is impossible to ignore. edward clay was a first time offender when caught with less than 2 ounces of cocaine. he received ten years in jail for a mandatory minimum sentence. weldon angelos was 24 years old and was given 55 years in prison for selling marijuana. and sent a 19-year-old to prison for conspiracy. what was the conspiracy, the young man was in a car where drugs were found. i don't know about you, but one of us might have been in a car in our youth at one point in time where there might have been drugs in the car. >> you just heard a republican senator quoting an aclu report on how the war on drugs visits
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disproportional suffering on black men. an aclu report. you just heard a republican senator say, "there its no justice here." you just heard a republican senator quoting a judge saying i'm pretty sure we have all been a car at some point in our youth where some one had drugs. what other republican senator would say that? but rand paul wasn't finished. he improvised something that wasn't in his written statements. something about president obama that his republican rivals force the presidency will never let him forget. >> imagine this. glad the president has great compassion. he admitted like a lot of other individuals who are now elected to office, that one time he made mistakes as a youth. and i think what a tragedy it would have been had he gone to prison. what a tragedy if america wouldn't have gotten to see
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barack obama as a leader. i just don't know why we can't come together and do something about this. >> what a tragedy it would have been if america wouldn't hatch gotten to see barack obama as a leader. rand paul's words. as soon as ted cruise heard that he wrote in his head a 30-second attack ad against rand paul using that sentence. >> what a tragedy it would have been if america wouldn't hatch got tune see barack obama as a leader. >> the republican attack ad against rand paul are not going to put that sentence in con desk. even if they did, the context would be rand paul saying that it is a national tragedy. that one out of three african-american males is for d forbidden by law from voting. the context would be rand paul's view of the cruelty of the war on drugs. rand paul's not going to win that round when this quote comes up. in a republican presidential
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primary. and he has the to know that. he had to know that, when he said it today. rand paul will continue to give false hope. to the tea party about repealing or defunding obama air. rand paul will continue to say things that are untrue. and as we have pointed out on this program, he will say things that are ludicrous. and he will say politically cowardly things. but that's not what he did today. senator rand paul said the politically bravest thing that anyone said in washington today. >> what a tragedy it would have been if america wouldn't hatch gotten to see barack obama adds a leader. good around ♪ ♪ turn around barry ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪
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>> today the center for humanist activism launched free thought
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equality fund pac. the first nontheist political action committee to have a full time paid staff according to their website. they will be supporting candidates who identify as humanist, agnostic, and who share our goals of protecting sep ration of church and state and defending the civil liberties of secular americans. they also say they're willing to support religious candidates who strongly support the sep ration ration -- separation and church and state. next the environmental impact of the colorado floods. - they've . but now they've gone even further... threatening to shut down the government if obamacare isn't dismantled. it could disrupt social security and veterans benefits, hurt job growth and undermine our economic recovery - tell these house republicans - enough already!
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>> tonight colorado residents are continuing to recover from what has been described as biblical floods that drenched 17 counties and took the lives of six people. 200 residents are still missing statewide. and one catastrophe modeling firm estimates, estimates that damage to residential property will cost $900 million. while damage to commercial and government properties will cost $1 billion. as the water begins to recede, state officials are now turning their attention to the environmental impact of the floods, particularly in counties with oil and gas wells. according to the colorado gazette, hard-hit weld county has the highest number of active oil and gas wells in the state at 20,554 more than a third of the statewide total of 51,228. yuma county has -- yuma county to the east has the the third
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highest number of active wells at 3,343. and, in breaking news tonight -- the colorado oil and gas conservation commission reports that a damaged oil tank spilled 5,200 gallons of oil into colorado's platte river. joining me colorado resident and salon.com columnist, david ceroda. colorado based on what i have been reading, wasn't prepared for this at any level including the governmental. >> i think that is a fair statement in the sense of what we are doing regulatorily. when you look at debates in colorado where to site fraking wells, and permit oil drilling and severe weather events in the era of climate change has not been happening. >> they do no worse case scenario modeling. according to what i read in your piece, they don't do any -- even bad case scenario.
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never mind worst case. >> i think when you look at a lot of the west, the west has become essentially an energy colony. the energy industry dictates orders to the governments in the west. and people forget that colorado is one of the biggest natural gas reserves in the tooentire wd not just the united states. here you have $4 billion investment, fossil fuel investment on a flood plane in the era of climate change. now months after the government accountability office said that individuals in the government need to be looking at climate change and are not looking at climate change when making permit decisions. months after that happened. guess what president? we have a climate-enhanced change, intensified flood hitting in the middle of energy country now. you have got as you showed, the breaking news of oil spills and major riverways. here is the thing. this shows that what we are talking abut here is not just -- a situation that affects one city or, a couple of counties.
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the south platte river you mentioned goes out to nebraska. that goes all the way out to, filters into the water aquefer that serves the country. >> now with this flood, and gas development, and fraking develop, the water ways and fld walter ways are picking up all of this -- floodwater ways are picking up this, all of this sludge, silt, sending it down river. >> not talking just the denver area. we are talking the entire region. here is a critical point. you mentioned a couple 5,000 gallons of oil. in the context of the gulf oil spill it doesn't sound look much. in the west, a relatively small amount of oil by those comparisons scan ha s can have impact. it is affecting freshwater drinking water in an area despite the flood this week is a parched area. taushging an area where the population is growing. where water is a huge issue. where officials in the
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government aren't properly regulating where the energy situationed are being cited you. have climate change coming in with severe weather to create not just an instant or couple week kind of disaster but a disaster that if you contaminate the ground waument water create question of everything from drinking walt ining water to to contaminants. >> a few weeks ago, before this flood, have they made different noises now? >> i think so. i think you are seeing the regulators looking a little flat-footed now. saying we're going to be on top of this. the problem is that, that they didn't learn the lesson early on. they were saying, when we, when weep were, there was a debate in fort collins should we allow fraking near the puter river. and a flood hits. the hope is, this is my hope as some one that lives in the region. the hope is we will learn from this and better regulate the
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industry in the future. >> thank you for joining us tonight. straight from colorado. straight from the site. thank you, david. >> chris hayes is up next. >> good evening, from new york, i'm chris hayes, and tonight on "all in" showdown to shutdown, house republicans are threatening a government shutdown, while also signaling they will surrender and then trying to throw each other under the bus. it is a total mess, also extremely entertaining to watch. and we'll bring you all the details. then i'll go toe to toe with a republican economist about his deranged existence on prolonging misery, then, one of the best political ads i have ever seen. but for now, we begin with john boehner throwing down the proverbial gauntlet, about de-funding the obama care and sending it along to the senate. they ignore warnings from across the political spectrum, including from a man by the name of john boehner.

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